Every year we fight about what “counts” as a Christmas movie. Some say Die Hard is, some say it isn’t. This morning I claimed that Jack Frost is not. Last night we watched Batman Returns as a part of our seasonal viewing. So let’s discuss, what is your criteria for a Christmas movie?
For me, I love to say Die Hard is a Christmas movie, mostly because it’s a kick-ass flick and it’s just fun to think it is. But if I put it up to any real scrutiny and established some criteria for what a Christmas movie is, it might not hold up. But then again, it may…
Besides taking place during the Christmas season, I would say the plot has to be significantly tied to the fact it is Christmas. Ideally, you couldn’t write the script to take place in August for example, because it wouldn’t make sense to your story.
For Die Hard, it’s very important that it’s Christmas Eve. Hans Gruber has specifically targeted that time because there will be hardly anyone in the skyscraper except the people he is targeting who will be there for the Christmas party. Bruce Willis also wouldn’t be visiting if it wasn’t Christmas. There’s also Christmas decor and music as well. So Christmas is a key element.
However, the essential through line of the movie doesn’t necessarily make it essential to Christmas. From a writing standpoint, you could, say, set the movie on the 4th of July. Maybe that’s John and Holly’s anniversary, or one of their kids birthdays. The movie would still be kick-ass if it were hypothetically July 4th.
So for the the quandary is…does the plot and key story points/beats have to be germane to Christmas? I don’t know…maybe I’ll spike my eggnog and see if I get any clarity. 😂🤣🎄
"The plot has to be significantly tied to the fact it is Christmas" this is such a great point and something I missed in my assessment! I actually do think without Christmas in this movie, you couldn't have the movie. Sure, 4th of July would work similarly for the plot, but what John learns by the end would be less poignant.
I think this is what I was trying to get to in my Jack Frost post but didn't circle in on-- you could totally have Jack Frost without Christmas. A snowman is not inherently "Christmas-y" to me.
Agreed that a snowman isn’t Christmas-y! It’s wintery, sure, but you can build snowmen in cold weather places in February or March. And I 100% agree that because it’s Christmas, the payoff to McClane‘s character arc is much stronger, and without it, weakens the movie. Never thought of that … excellent point! Die Hard = Christmas Movie 100%. 😊
I think you've pretty much got it. It should be where, if you remove the Christmas element, the plot falls apart. The Christmas part has to be load-bearing lol
For me, I love to say Die Hard is a Christmas movie, mostly because it’s a kick-ass flick and it’s just fun to think it is. But if I put it up to any real scrutiny and established some criteria for what a Christmas movie is, it might not hold up. But then again, it may…
Besides taking place during the Christmas season, I would say the plot has to be significantly tied to the fact it is Christmas. Ideally, you couldn’t write the script to take place in August for example, because it wouldn’t make sense to your story.
For Die Hard, it’s very important that it’s Christmas Eve. Hans Gruber has specifically targeted that time because there will be hardly anyone in the skyscraper except the people he is targeting who will be there for the Christmas party. Bruce Willis also wouldn’t be visiting if it wasn’t Christmas. There’s also Christmas decor and music as well. So Christmas is a key element.
However, the essential through line of the movie doesn’t necessarily make it essential to Christmas. From a writing standpoint, you could, say, set the movie on the 4th of July. Maybe that’s John and Holly’s anniversary, or one of their kids birthdays. The movie would still be kick-ass if it were hypothetically July 4th.
So for the the quandary is…does the plot and key story points/beats have to be germane to Christmas? I don’t know…maybe I’ll spike my eggnog and see if I get any clarity. 😂🤣🎄
Looking forward to hearing your take on this!
"The plot has to be significantly tied to the fact it is Christmas" this is such a great point and something I missed in my assessment! I actually do think without Christmas in this movie, you couldn't have the movie. Sure, 4th of July would work similarly for the plot, but what John learns by the end would be less poignant.
I think this is what I was trying to get to in my Jack Frost post but didn't circle in on-- you could totally have Jack Frost without Christmas. A snowman is not inherently "Christmas-y" to me.
Agreed that a snowman isn’t Christmas-y! It’s wintery, sure, but you can build snowmen in cold weather places in February or March. And I 100% agree that because it’s Christmas, the payoff to McClane‘s character arc is much stronger, and without it, weakens the movie. Never thought of that … excellent point! Die Hard = Christmas Movie 100%. 😊
I think you've pretty much got it. It should be where, if you remove the Christmas element, the plot falls apart. The Christmas part has to be load-bearing lol
Load-bearing to the plot … yes! 😊
I didn’t see your Jack Frost post before I wrote this. 😊 Great piece and solid points all around on what makes a Christmas movie!